breakfloor_b7 Ideas+Bugs Also new map ideas here!

[Toastyking]

Pain stroke texture added for TF2ness.

[Tempest]

Wow Toasty. I really like the metal one. Imma use that for the logo on the credits poster. Thanks

[tomm]

what do you think about not dieing instantly at the bottom, but more of a slow death, then people can fight it out at the bottom or sacrifice to get a block under a player destroyed

[BAMF]

what do you think about not dieing instantly at the bottom, but more of a slow death, then people can fight it out at the bottom or sacrifice to get a block under a player destroyed

[Fat Elvis]

what do you think about not dieing instantly at the bottom, but more of a slow death, then people can fight it out at the bottom or sacrifice to get a block under a player destroyed

Sandvich heavy would mess that all up.

[Tempest]

Also sentries, spies, etc.

[tomm]

Also sentries, spies, etc.

cant you make it nobuild, and like alittle more damage than fire.

that sounds about good

[LaN]

We still have heavies and medics as temp problems

[FlaminSarge]

I believe there is a way to strip weapons once the player passes a certain point in the map (cp_meleebarn even makes you switch to the melee weapon every single time you leave or enter the spawn area). If you do this, you could strip specifically the medigun and sandwich as people fall down. Melee only in the pit would work too. The only problem is sly medics reproducing the melee_checkers overheal bug by healing someone as their weapons are stripped, so you'd have to make the damage rate slightly higher than the heal rate, or we'd have permanent overheal people in the pit, unless you could make it so that only one person can drop into the pit at a time (like arena_chamber, except once they hit the ground the next person can go through), and strip weapons nearer to the ground, so a medic and his buddy can't go through at the same time.


... Wall of text, sorry. But it should stop any exploiting or healing.

[LaN]

Or some saws in the pit. You have to avoid them and will die eventually.

[FlaminSarge]

Or some saws in the pit. You have to avoid them and will die eventually.

They'd have to have some specific path that covers all areas in the pit, and some people are very good at dodging.

Unrelated, random idea: How about a button in the pit that destroys a layer of enemy blocks if you purposely jump down to hit it? Suicide button! It kills the player that pushed it and destroys some blocks. That way people who fall into the pit can be of some use, and maybe saws could guard the button a bit so that it's harder to reach.

[Riftoff]

Add moving saws/whatever that make it impossible to stay in one place without dying (eating a sandvich).

[Fat Elvis]

Oh I have an idea, how about adding that middle part between the RED and BLU floors that's in breakfall? That would allow a 'staging' zone of sorts and make games a little less campy.

[LaN]

A little bridge in the middle would be........interesting.

just make sure its unbuildable

[Fat Elvis]

A little bridge in the middle would be........interesting.

just make sure its unbuildable

On that topic, there should be a version that allows building, and one that disallows building (This would include the breakable blocks). Both would have a little different flavor since you could build.

[Tempest]

Thank you for the idea guys, ill take these in consideration and see what works best.

Now onto the subject of camping, I'm not sure if Ive said it in this thread or not yet, but I've added a timer that makes it so after about 5 or so minutes into the game the first layer of blocks break, and then 5 or 10 seconds later the layer below that one breaks, so on and so forth, until the last layer. This last layer I think breaks after 15 seconds.

This is to promote moving and to try and stop camping as there is no point in camping now.

Hopefully this will make for quicker and more fun rounds.

[Trilby]

Thank you for the idea guys, ill take these in consideration and see what works best.

Now onto the subject of camping, I'm not sure if Ive said it in this thread or not yet, but I've added a timer that makes it so after about 5 or so minutes into the game the first layer of blocks break, and then 5 or 10 seconds later the layer below that one breaks, so on and so forth, until the last layer. This last layer I think breaks after 15 seconds.

This is to promote moving and to try and stop camping as there is no point in camping now.

Hopefully this will make for quicker and more fun rounds.

Make sure that Dead Ringer's Can't refill easily i.e put a lvl 1 dispenser around to heal and restore ammo but can't be upgraded instead of ammo boxes and health kits

[LaN]

Thank you for the idea guys, ill take these in consideration and see what works best.

Now onto the subject of camping, I'm not sure if Ive said it in this thread or not yet, but I've added a timer that makes it so after about 5 or so minutes into the game the first layer of blocks break, and then 5 or 10 seconds later the layer below that one breaks, so on and so forth, until the last layer. This last layer I think breaks after 15 seconds.

This is to promote moving and to try and stop camping as there is no point in camping now.

Hopefully this will make for quicker and more fun rounds.

Make sure that Dead Ringer's Can't refill easily i.e put a lvl 1 dispenser around to heal and restore ammo but can't be upgraded instead of ammo boxes and health kits

King george will finally die

[FlaminSarge]

He'll find a new way to grief. Oh, level 1 dispensers still extend the DR cloak by quite a bit. I remember sitting on Crab Nicholson's lvl1dispenser on melee_checkers_v3 while a demoknight was searching for me. He got me pretty quickly, but I was still the last person alive. Dispensers fill the normal cloak pretty quickly too.

[LaN]

You can see the beams

[Trilby]

You can see the beams

Owned Flamin, and lan is right you can see the beams and aslo lvl 1 dispensers don't do shit

[Fat Elvis]

How about we put the level 1 dispenser in the top of the ramp area for both teams, only it is partly in the wall as to not take space?


Also on the subject of camping, I think what should happen is after 1-2 minutes they start breaking in 15 second intervals, the last layer lasting 1 minute however.

5 minutes is still way to long for the game to be, it's arena it shouldn't take more then 2 or so minutes.



And tempest, what do you think about the 'Middle ramp' idea?

[Tempest]

Not sure I like the idea of dispensers, since level 1 actually DO give a lot of cloak still.

Also, middle ramp idea?

[LaN]

The little passage on the sides , you can make them connect with a middle bridge

[Trilby]

Not sure I like the idea of dispensers, since level 1 actually DO give a lot of cloak still.

Also, middle ramp idea?

Your all high as fuck I've never had a lvl 1 keep me dead ringed even when I'm not getting hit

And

Middle ramp? you mean kinda like the breakfall thing?

Also I've seen servers with dispensers that only heal and refill the ammo of their team without healing/ammoing enemy spies

[FlaminSarge]

You can see the beams

Owned Flamin, and lan is right you can see the beams and aslo lvl 1 dispensers don't do shit

Sorry for late reply, was out the past couple days. Um... yeah, I know YOU can see the beams, but I've got all my settings on low. It makes it so that the dispenser beams and medic heal beams only render fairly close up ... Also, I don't think dispensers built into the map show healbeams, they look like inactive dispensers but still heal or something.

Oh, and I said I camped on Crab Nicholson's lvl 1 for a bit. It doesn't keep it full, but it extends it for a while. The hit-flicker always shows up after 6 seconds, though, so dispensers shouldn't be much of a problem.

And no, I cannot turn up my settings without my FPS dropping to 1. Yes, it is only my problem (although others might have low settings too). I realize this.

[Trilby]

You can see the beams

Owned Flamin, and lan is right you can see the beams and aslo lvl 1 dispensers don't do shit

Sorry for late reply, was out the past couple days. Um... yeah, I know YOU can see the beams, but I've got all my settings on low. It makes it so that the dispenser beams and medic heal beams only render fairly close up ... Also, I don't think dispensers built into the map show healbeams, they look like inactive dispensers but still heal or something.

Oh, and I said I camped on Crab Nicholson's lvl 1 for a bit. It doesn't keep it full, but it extends it for a while. The hit-flicker always shows up after 6 seconds, though, so dispensers shouldn't be much of a problem.

And no, I cannot turn up my settings without my FPS dropping to 1. Yes, it is only my problem (although others might have low settings too). I realize this.

Herp Derp

[FlaminSarge]

Herp Derp

Have some compassion Trilby

[Tempest]

I might just post this new b7 without all the fancy new textures and stuff so that there is a actual, fun and working breakfloor on the server again. Getting tired of getting on the server and seeing DR spies in the pit -_-

[FlaminSarge]

If you could, can you make it so that its not graphics intensive? (Basic textures and stuff) My FPS drops with the green, red, and blue gas. B5 was good about textures, but maybe just solid red and blue blocks? Maybe like orange, just dev textures.

Oh, you should add a chute that people slide down into the break arena in the ten seconds before the round starts, just for flair (make it push them through so they can't hold S and hang in there or sit in the opening in the wall).

Random ideas.