Mayhem at the Middle East!

Ohnoez · Unread post by **Ohnoez** » 31 Jan 2011, 09:38

I think the people here have some knowledge of the conflict in Egypt about how everyone is rebelling over dictatorship and over the weekend that police in Egypt have disbanded creating even more chaos. America (some of you may care or not but, when it's us it will be Canada next) Al Quaeda ( I am not sure if i spelled that right but I will just refer to them as "Terrorists")
This is how it's gonna go down Egypt is out of a government, so the "Terrorists" are going in for the kill to ninja their way into the government. Egypt has been our ally against the fight of Terrorism and a terrorist government WON'T help us shocking isn't it? Egypt will or already has a civil war in their hands. What do you think of the problem? Does America have enough problems such as guarding the border between North Korea and South Korea because of the war going on there? or America does what America always does stick their noses into places that is not needed as usual...

Unread post by **Riftoff** » 31 Jan 2011, 10:40

I can't even tell what you're saying here, but I'll rest assured its dumb.

BAMF · Unread post by **BAMF** » 31 Jan 2011, 10:46

wait, are you calling the rebels or the government terrorists?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ising.html

because america is kind of backing both of them

EDIT: wait do you think there is a war going on between the koreas
because there is not

Ohnoez · Unread post by **Ohnoez** » 31 Jan 2011, 11:40

No, I am say saying if the government of Egypt falls terrorists are going to attempt of controlling Egypt. I'm not saying they are terrorists, I'm just saying the wrong person might be "elected" to be the leader of Egypt and cause more oppression for the people.

The Koreas are technically not in a war but, apparently North Korea sunk a submarine from South Korea and bombarded civilian territory, troops are there from America ( I don't know why in the hell we would be there) because we want North Korea to disarm their nuclear weapons or somewhere around the there.

Unread post by **Liquid Death** » 01 Feb 2011, 06:18

Ohnoez wrote:I think the people here have some knowledge of the conflict in Egypt about how everyone is rebelling over dictatorship and over the weekend that police in Egypt have disbanded creating even more chaos. America (some of you may care or not but, when it's us it will be Canada next) Al Quaeda ( I am not sure if i spelled that right but I will just refer to them as "Terrorists")
This is how it's gonna go down Egypt is out of a government, so the "Terrorists" are going in for the kill to ninja their way into the government. Egypt has been our ally against the fight of Terrorism and a terrorist government WON'T help us shocking isn't it? Egypt will or already has a civil war in their hands. What do you think of the problem? Does America have enough problems such as guarding the border between North Korea and South Korea because of the war going on there? or America does what America always does stick their noses into places that is not needed as usual...

It would be possible for a religious fanatic to get elected, but unlikely, even more unlikely for a member of Al Qaeda to get elected as they are largely rural and thus largely illiterate.

Right now the protests are more or less peaceful, since more protesters are getting killed than police. Also in a rebellion such as this, it should be noted that many people already have a replacement in mind. There is speculation that the new leader may be a former UN ambassador from Egypt, so it'd very very difficult for anyone to ninja their way into government. The only religious political group that has so much as a chance is The Muslim Brotherhood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

Also it is kind of the US's business, because Egypt is essentially a US puppet. Mubarak was put in 30 years ago (Correct me If I'm wrong), which would be the 1980's when the US was busy manipulating the world to attempt to contain communism, and the USSR was in Afghanistan. The puppet has outlived its purpose but it doesn't stop it from being our business.
The US is, despite the protesters wanting us to live up to our word of spreading democracy, staying out of it and is letting things take their natural course.

Who knows, this may be a better way to stop a dictatorship then sending troops in and wasting money.
That is, do nothing and wait for people to get fed up.

Ohnoez wrote: The Koreas are technically not in a war but, apparently North Korea sunk a submarine from South Korea and bombarded civilian territory, troops are there from America ( I don't know why in the hell we would be there) because we want North Korea to disarm their nuclear weapons or somewhere around the there.

*Ahem*
Actually the Korean War hasn't ended yet technically. It was only a ceasefire.

EDIT: Protests not exactly peaceful anymore,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12345656

Unread post by **giggles** » 02 Feb 2011, 09:47

hmm..why does it not embed.. and is a white stupid box. whatever this is the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn9x4LCQ ... ture=feedu

basically Mubarak better get his behind outta there A.S.A.P.

he said he's not going to run for another term but everyone just wants him to GTFO. which he should.
he's literally starving his people by cutting off all ATMs, and basically everything else. on the news the bakery didnt even have things to make bread and the shelves were empty and people don't even have money on top of that to get anything. maaan this #nonMubarak guy is really stupid, dunno why he isn't dead yet *shrugs*

Unread post by **giggles** » 02 Feb 2011, 11:48

i've been listening to Al Jazeera English and its absolutely frightening to hear the reporter there almost on the verge of crying asking why he just can't leave and stop the hell going on. i hope he gets assassinated successfully soon -_- all this violence and death just for him to simply step down? what a freaking stupid "leader" astagfirullah.

this pisses me off. just as much as the israel and palestine conflict. and everything else. ¬_¬

WampRats · Unread post by **WampRats** » 02 Feb 2011, 11:56

It's only been going on for about 2000 years giggles, it can't be much longer

Unread post by **giggles** » 03 Feb 2011, 12:00

-__-'' not even gonna bother

http://www.ahmedrehab.com/blog/2011/02/ ... rom-cairo/

Ohnoez · Unread post by **Ohnoez** » 03 Feb 2011, 12:12

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41399519/ns ... ?gt1=43001

everything pretty much gotten worse

BAMF wrote:EDIT: wait do you think there is a war going on between the koreas
because there is not

pretty sure there is a war

Unread post by **Liquid Death** » 03 Feb 2011, 03:42

Here's the link to Al Jazeera's live streaming
They have the best reporting on the revolution.
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ ... 57345.html

BAMF · Unread post by **BAMF** » 03 Feb 2011, 03:26

Ohnoez wrote:
BAMF wrote:EDIT: wait do you think there is a war going on between the koreas
because there is not
pretty sure there is a war

The Koreas are technically not in a war

make up your mind
they may technically be in a war, but I refuse to believe it is a full-scale conflict. If there really was a war going on, South Korea and it's allies (ie everyone) would swiftly crush North Korea.

Unread post by **Original** » 03 Feb 2011, 06:01

technically it is our business.

America is paying Egypt (muburack specifically) 1.5 billion a year to stay at peace with Israel how also gets a large sum of cash yearly from us.

Egypt is I think the 2nd largest purchaser of US weapons, those tear gas cans that have 'made in the USA' on them. hmmm, I can understand the people of Egypt not having a great view of the USA.

But to say that removing Mubarack would be bad because the people might end up under another oppressive rule? They HAVE been oppressed for 30 years (at least), can it get worse?

A few days ago I thought we should just watch, hopefully let the Egyptians solve this themselves. But now I think it's time for Uncle Sam to intervene, people are starting to be silenced (aka murdered by the govt), reporters are being arrested, supplies cut off...
We act now when people are there to rise up and things will end well.
If we wait things are going to get real ugly, really fast and there will be no turning back.

Down with the oppressors, off with their heads!

Unread post by **giggles** » 03 Feb 2011, 06:43

Original wrote:technically it is our business.

America is paying Egypt (muburack specifically) 1.5 billion a year to stay at peace with Israel how also gets a large sum of cash yearly from us.

Egypt is I think the 2nd largest purchaser of US weapons, those tear gas cans that have 'made in the USA' on them. hmmm, I can understand the people of Egypt not having a great view of the USA.

But to say that removing Mubarack would be bad because the people might end up under another oppressive rule? They HAVE been oppressed for 30 years (at least), can it get worse?

A few days ago I thought we should just watch, hopefully let the Egyptians solve this themselves. But now I think it's time for Uncle Sam to intervene, people are starting to be silenced (aka murdered by the govt), reporters are being arrested, supplies cut off...
We act now when people are there to rise up and things will end well.
If we wait things are going to get real ugly, really fast and there will be no turning back.

Down with the oppressors, off with their heads!

I think most of the middle east...world.. has a negative view towards America tbh -_- and if we do stick our noses into their issues like in other countries they'll hate us more, but if it'll stop the violence and rid of mubarak, hell yeah.

also i think the Vice President Mubarak appointed lately (apparently he hasn't appointed a VP in 30 years!) is another bloody idiot that will probably be as bad as him. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/01/30-2 ..so i think it can get worse, but right now in order to the the egyptian people to calm the hell down Mubarak really needs to resign...NOW. they won't stop till he leaves. he thinks there will be more chaos if he does leave.. which seems plausible. people are damn crazy ._. the place isn't even safe enough for Friday prayers, everyone was told to pray in their houses instead -_-''

Ohnoez · Unread post by **Ohnoez** » 03 Feb 2011, 07:25

BAMF wrote:
Ohnoez wrote:
BAMF wrote:EDIT: wait do you think there is a war going on between the koreas
because there is not
pretty sure there is a war

The Koreas are technically not in a war
make up your mind
they may technically be in a war, but I refuse to believe it is a full-scale conflict. If there really was a war going on, South Korea and it's allies (ie everyone) would swiftly crush North Korea.

it's a temporary cease fire how technical do you want me to be? There not having a war as in

Boom boom whiz whiz
(Yelling in the distance in korean)
Btatatatatata

gun fire and explosions are going off this moment

Unread post by **MrKerplunkers** » 03 Feb 2011, 07:54

giggles wrote:so i think it can get worse, but right now in order to the the egyptian people to calm the hell down Mubarak really needs to resign...NOW.

Sadly, I highly doubt this will happen. History shows that dictators do many things when the shit starts to hit the fan, and humbly resigning isn't among them.

If the dude is going to resign, chances it won't be until shit gets really ugly.

BAMF · Unread post by **BAMF** » 03 Feb 2011, 08:35

Ohnoez wrote: it's a temporary cease fire how technical do you want me to be? There not having a war as in

Boom boom whiz whiz
(Yelling in the distance in korean)
Btatatatatata

gun fire and explosions are going off this moment

It's been 50 years, it's a bit more then temporary. I'm not asking you to be technical, I'm asking you to make sense. You say that they're not shooting, but you say gun fire and explosions are going off this moment?

It's not a war, there are no armies marching towards one another, no big naval battles, no POWs, and minimal death and destruction. A cease-fire isn't a war, it is a cease-fire.
Why am I even arguing with you didn't you say you were just starting high school?

Video from the Egypt conflict:

pretty fucked up, hard to believe the guy driving it is a human being

Unread post by **spleenter** » 04 Feb 2011, 12:13

this is actually a thread im interested to see what its going to turn into. my local news here doesnt report on it, and all national news is biased.

you guys are my chief source of information on this topic right now.

Unread post by **Riftoff** » 04 Feb 2011, 12:49

Al Jazeera English is pretty much where its at for global news coverage, and they're covering the revolution in Egypt better than anyone else.
http://english.aljazeera.net/

Unread post by **giggles** » 04 Feb 2011, 10:40

MrKerplunkers wrote:
giggles wrote:so i think it can get worse, but right now in order to the the egyptian people to calm the hell down Mubarak really needs to resign...NOW.
Sadly, I highly doubt this will happen. History shows that dictators do many things when the shit starts to hit the fan, and humbly resigning isn't among them.

If the dude is going to resign, chances it won't be until shit gets really ugly.

BUT S*** IS ALREADY GETTING UGLY. how many damn innocent lives can you take until it gets "bad"? damnit!

and the U.S. is the WORST place to get news about anything important, english al jazeera is where its at like riftoff said. all the U.S. news channels care about is stupid things like "Scientists Discover Dogs can SNIFF out Cancer!" like wtf? (i think thats false still) but yeah...

have you seen the boston gallery of egypt's chaos? number 14 just kills me.
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/0 ... _in_e.html

*sigh*

edit:

this i found on tumblr...
http://aleenaxd.tumblr.com/post/3106011081

Unread post by **MrKerplunkers** » 05 Feb 2011, 08:03

giggles wrote:
BUT S*** IS ALREADY GETTING UGLY. how many damn innocent lives can you take until it gets "bad"? damnit!

Perhaps I should've clarified. I ment until shit for him gets ugly.

Bare in mind, we aint exactly talking about Mother Teresa here. We're talking about a man, from my limited understanding, undermined democratic principals and lied on a daily basis for 30 years so he can stay in power. I'm no detective, but it's same to assume Mubarak is kinda a selfish prick, and I would go even further to say he's a coward. True, it's sometimes hard to imagine that guys like Mubarak can live with themselves after watching innocents die because of his actions. But, lo and behold, Mubarak doesn't give 2 shits.

So until he feels his own power, or god permitting, life is viably threatened, dude ain't going no where. And seeing how there is now a very convient pro-government force out there now, he's gonna be sitting pretty until this all blows over or until his head is on a pike. Presumably he does this while eating puppies and wiping his ass with the Egyptian Democratic Constitution, presuming that they have one.

Also, stop talking about the Koreans damnit, one shitstorm at a time guys.

BAMF · Unread post by **BAMF** » 10 Feb 2011, 03:54

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/20 ... on-rumours
Live Speech from the big man.
He's not running again, but I'm pretty sure he's not resigning, and Egypy isn't waiting for September. Civil War imminent.

Unread post by **giggles** » 10 Feb 2011, 04:45

OH MY GAWD. MUBARAK IS JUST STRAIGHT UP STUPID MAAAAN.

he's not leaving, but he's giving power to the VP who's another jacka**

smooth move mubarak, just gtfo and repent in saudi and call it quits yo'.

and now the insanity in tahrir square shall continue.

Unread post by **MrKerplunkers** » 11 Feb 2011, 02:21

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02 ... tml?hpt=T1

Dude stepped down. Power is in the hands of the military at least until they figure out what the fuck they are going to do.
So, yay I guess.

BAMF · Unread post by **BAMF** » 11 Feb 2011, 02:46

Unread post by **giggles** » 11 Feb 2011, 03:54

HELL YEAH. MUBARAK IS GONE.

that fool better go repent like he's gonna die today. pfft.

wore Egyptian colors [in headscarf form] today in celebration~

now hopefully they'll have a good leader. *prays*

Unread post by **Liquid Death** » 13 Feb 2011, 01:53

Hopefully demonstrations in Iran, Yemen, etc... will have the same striking success that Egypt and Tunisia have had.
This is truly a historical moment.

Unread post by **giggles** » 13 Feb 2011, 08:08

i heard Algeria's been at it too. they even shut off al jazeera from the country.. i gotta read up more on it though before saying anything

Unread post by **Viano** » 14 Feb 2011, 06:46

Unread post by **Liquid Death** » 14 Feb 2011, 08:48

Viano wrote:

lmao

Yes the protests are going on in Algeria, Syria, even Bahrain. They are popping up everywhere so I am too lazy to list them all.

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