Shootings at Fort Hood
Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 07:45
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It's just that some people are silly enough to let points of view divide them.Beetle wrote:Pssh, I don't think you should censor your PoV, but I see you don't want to offend.
Fuck off which ever bluephyr you are.bluephyr wrote:Make it a point to wonder how many people in a military post did not have a weapon, or in the case of him wearing armor, the SKILL, to stop him before he harmed that many people.
Also, you know the public paranoia will deem this as a terrorist attack because the guy was MUSLIM. Lol.. a Muslim guy who had a degree in psychiatry :|. That is irony...
wtf you tryin to say there?!bluephyr wrote:Make it a point to wonder how many people in a military post did not have a weapon, or in the case of him wearing armor, the SKILL, to stop him before he harmed that many people.
Also, you know the public paranoia will deem this as a terrorist attack because the guy was MUSLIM. Lol.. a Muslim guy who had a degree in psychiatry :|. That is irony...
As I was referring to the guy, not the fact that a MUSLIM had a degree in psychiatry. Sorry for the misinterpretation.a terrorist attack because the guy was MUSLIM. Lol.. a Muslim guy who had a degree in psychiatry :|. That is irony...
bluephyr wrote:
Also, you know the public paranoia will deem this as a terrorist attack because the guy was MUSLIM. Lol.. a Muslim guy who had a degree in psychiatry :|. That is irony...
So we should be fighting gangs?Ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
Terrorism is a policy or ideology of violence in asymmetrical conflict. I am pretty sure that shooting unarmed people falls under that category.
^Ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:Yes, but the military wont work for that kind of task. The police are doing all they can and I am ok with that. I dont want to turn America into a war zone but hopefully during a time of peace the military could assist with eradicating gangs. I think that gangs are absolutely terrorists though.
I find it even more ironic that the shooter was a PSYCHIATRIST. That's just funny.Liquid Death wrote: NSFW: Click to ViewOH THE IRONY the ineffectiveness of our guns ability to penetrate body armor saves lives.
Actually, he lives about 5 minutes from one, one of the biggest in the U.S., Randolph AFB. About a minute from my house. But yeah, on a military base, more of the soldiers probably should have some form of weapon, if not having more MPs roaming around and not just at the entrances.Ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:Ok, I doubt you have been to a military base so I am going to spell it out for you. Only the MPs carry guns on base. If you want your gun you have to go to the armory and check it out and after that you are only allowed to use it on the shooting range. The clerks aren't all running around with their service pistols and M-4s.
P.S. 50 bucks says that the guy that posted this shit is big blue.
And yeah, martial law doesn't work. That's how dictatorships and extreme abuses of powers and civil liberties happen.Ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:Yes, but the military wont work for that kind of task. The police are doing all they can and I am ok with that. I dont want to turn America into a war zone but hopefully during a time of peace the military could assist with eradicating gangs. I think that gangs are absolutely terrorists though.
No, not terrorism unless his goal was in fact to intimidate and terrorize. Only reason people are considering it is because the dude is Muslim. There have been other military base shootings and on campuses where it's just a psycho, not a terrorist. The guy went crazy because he was going to be deployed to the Middle East, he didn't wanna go and had a break down.Ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:bluephyr wrote:
Also, you know the public paranoia will deem this as a terrorist attack because the guy was MUSLIM. Lol.. a Muslim guy who had a degree in psychiatry :|. That is irony...
Terrorism is a policy or ideology of violence in asymmetrical conflict. I am pretty sure that shooting unarmed people falls under that category.
And yeah, that's just what Blue said up there in his original post.PhrozenFlame wrote:I find it even more ironic that the shooter was a PSYCHIATRIST. That's just funny.Liquid Death wrote: NSFW: Click to ViewOH THE IRONY the ineffectiveness of our guns ability to penetrate body armor saves lives.
She needs to rename that song. None of that crap was ironic. I demand that she rename the song to either "Shitty Day" or "Unfortunate".Riftoff wrote:That makes a shitton more sense now. Callout is denied.
I thought that was what the safety was for? Or does noone use it anymore?Ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:Not to belittle noodles experience with the military but living in close proximity to Randolph AFB isn't much of a qualifier. I also live fairly close to Randolph but I grew up on military bases and see no reason why the regular guys on base should carry guns. You can only get in if you pass a checkpoint with armed guards and that guy wasn't really suspect because he was in fact authorized personnel. Saying that everyone should walk around with a loaded gun is just asking for people to start accidentally shooting each other.
Also, we can throw around our ideas of what defines terrorism all day but my points are that shooting people invokes the key word here TERROR and that Muslims aren't the only kind of terrorist. I am sure that I don't have to point out the IRA or the people who blow up abortion clinics.
TexasPhrozenFlame wrote: I thought that was what the safety was for? Or does noone use it anymore?
That's not what he said. Phrozen found it funny that the shooter was a psychiatrist. Blue found it funny that he was muslim and a pyschiatrist.Noodlefoo wrote:And yeah, that's just what Blue said up there in his original post.PhrozenFlame wrote:I find it even more ironic that the shooter was a PSYCHIATRIST. That's just funny.Liquid Death wrote: NSFW: Click to ViewOH THE IRONY the ineffectiveness of our guns ability to penetrate body armor saves lives.
I live in it.Liquid Death wrote:TexasPhrozenFlame wrote: I thought that was what the safety was for? Or does noone use it anymore?
I've been on that base multiple times as well as many other bases around the area. I thought that would be implied in living by it. And yeah not every single person needs to carry a weapon, but having more security around could have prevented this. The fact is there are people on a base with access to weapons, and a base is a place that is highly targeted for people to attack. And armed gunmen have gotten on base before, despite having gone through the checkpoints-I've gone through their checkpoints multiple times and they really don't check much.Ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:Not to belittle noodles experience with the military but living in close proximity to Randolph AFB isn't much of a qualifier. I also live fairly close to Randolph but I grew up on military bases and see no reason why the regular guys on base should carry guns. You can only get in if you pass a checkpoint with armed guards and that guy wasn't really suspect because he was in fact authorized personnel. Saying that everyone should walk around with a loaded gun is just asking for people to start accidentally shooting each other.
Also, we can throw around our ideas of what defines terrorism all day but my points are that shooting people invokes the key word here TERROR and that Muslims aren't the only kind of terrorist. I am sure that I don't have to point out the IRA or the people who blow up abortion clinics.
And yeah, that was clearly what he was going for. Re read it. It may have been a little poorly worded to where people who are just skimming won't understand its actual meaning, but that is clearly what it is meant to say.Beetle wrote:That's not what he said. Phrozen found it funny that the shooter was a psychiatrist. Blue found it funny that he was muslim and a pyschiatrist.Noodlefoo wrote: And yeah, that's just what Blue said up there in his original post.
One of these is not like the other.
Oh dear, I see clearly now how I could have taken that for something its notLol.. a Muslim guy who had a degree in psychiatry :|. That is irony...