Melee Fort- with a RANDOM Chooser?

[the asylum]

For those that played that super-secret special early release of SD Melee Fort on the funServer a few weeks ago, I'm sorry. There's no way to sugar coat it; it sucked. It sucked in every possible way it is possible to suck. It was awful, and I'm so, so sorry for having contributed to the mess of horrible maps on the funServer.

But I'm not going to take a tanto to my guts and commit seppuku. No, SD Melee Fort will happen. Why? Because I can. And because I can, I must.

Submitted for your approval: An early layout of the new SD Melee Fort:



The spawns will be the forts themeselves, adapted from RCTF Melee Fort. In place of the moat that's usually in the middle, it will have KOTH's middle section, minus the storehouse and boxcar boxing ring. The Australium will be located in the same fake train tunnels as the previous SD build, and everything else will be outdoors.

Suggestions? Requests?

[Beetle]

I like your determination

[_Pipeline]

You're pretty good at making sketches of things.

[Scrambles]

Now if only you could buy peoples' respect with sketches...

[the asylum]

How about a Hammer screenshot of a severely mangled ctf melee fort?



this'll take a looooooooong time to build around.

[Beetle]

doesn't look mangled. use the carve tool

[the asylum]

It looks mangled to me because I'm taking apart my baby.

But anyway, those who played the original SD Melee Fort remember that tiny cramped platform. This is the new platform:



Thats right, rectangle boxing ring, what now bitches?

[the asylum]

Playtested this yesterday, and it was so good.

Things I'm thinking of doing inclulde making the lift move slower, and reducing the flag return time to ~10 seconds, maybe shorter.

Any other suggestions from those who tested it?

[Scrambles]

Isn't building enabled? I think that might be OP if people figure out that it's enabled, seeing how it's a melee only map

[the asylum]

Building is enabled. But there's also a logic_timer that sends a RemoveHealth output to obj_sentrygun set for -99999999 every 0.1 seconds. So every time an Engineer tries to pull out a Sentry kit it'll blow up.

Dispensers and teleporters are spared this fate, however. I figured I should do something to make the Engineer a valuable contributor to the team instead of just "HUERP HUERP IM AN EPIC ENGY FOR THE WIN HUERP"

demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZP_R2LXrrA

[Scrambles]

Neat. So then put up a poster or something in spawn that says that engies can be useful too, cuz nobody picked up on that during the playtest

[the asylum]

This'll give them a real good idea then, I think

[Scrambles]

Yes. And on another note, yes.

[TragicRhapsody]

keep at it, we need people in the thing to do the things to get more people and uh... you know

[the asylum]

... yes?

Anyway now, with SD finalized, let's talk about hopefully the last of the Melee Fort family, MVM Melee Fort!



The concept I'm going with is, since the human players are all on RED and the bots are all BLU, I'll have the carrier sitting on top of the crushed remains of BLU's fort, whereupon the bots will spill over the roof and onto the ground to get making with the melee.

Also, in keeping up with the "Figure 8" pattern established in valve's MVM maps, it's necessary to have RED's base partially collapsed too. The grey areas in the drawing represent no-access areas or boundaries in general. Since bot AI and water usually don't mix that well, the moat is all dried up, with a ramp at the end being the only way out of the trench.

Obviously this is all very rough work here, but I think this is the design that makes the most sense.

[the asylum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBo13lBbHdI

because im getting tired of arena melee fort all the damn time

[_Pipeline]

I actually kind of like that mechanism.