This is actually a rather helpful post, well done.
"If you're looks for my actual porn, I'll give you a hint: A folder labeled "Tax Returns: 1995" shouldn't take up 200 gigs." -Kerplunkers
"7:17 PM - •cC• Sergeant Steve: I've held a horse dick in my hand" - Stevey
"7:17 PM - •cC• Sergeant Steve: I've held a horse dick in my hand" - Stevey
Also, there is a common one where someone offers you a hat but demands you to give you to give him a hat before he will give his hat to you. if you use any form of common sense you should be able to detect this scam. it actually pretty easy to do, i scammed a kid on the funserver, dont worry,i gave them back after he told me what he learned. please people use some common sense before you click on trade now.
Think of me what you will, I don't give a crap what you think about me. Nor will i change to please you.
It's a fine line between scam and legit trade. I have seen a lot of people get upset when someone elses trade has completed because they feel that one person ripped off another.
Items are only worth what the person who has them thinks their worth. Personally, I would rather have a hat I like than a hat that is more rare.
Items are only worth what the person who has them thinks their worth. Personally, I would rather have a hat I like than a hat that is more rare.
I once saw a scam involving 2 scammers, one would offer a rare item such as an unusual for something of great lesser rarity (crates, paints, name tags, even vintage items). The other would offer exactly what he wants in exchange for something of slightly higher rarity (like unwanted hats etc.). Once the second trades his gear in what was clearly an "unfair" trade, both scammers leave the server better than when they started.
Watch out for this, too. Slightly harder to detect because teamwork is often unassociated with scamming.
Watch out for this, too. Slightly harder to detect because teamwork is often unassociated with scamming.
Ill paint your hats for free
I got keys to open crates
Rename a weapon as Valve (weapon) or Community (weapon)
I got keys to open crates
Rename a weapon as Valve (weapon) or Community (weapon)
Rename Items Have This "Unusual Football Helmet " (notice quotation marks) , so if you see them. Its obviously Renamed.
Rare Items also have a different color like this Unusual Football Helmet
So watch out !!
Rare Items also have a different color like this Unusual Football Helmet
So watch out !!
HARD CARRY PLAYERS UNITE!!!
"If you're looks for my actual porn, I'll give you a hint: A folder labeled "Tax Returns: 1995" shouldn't take up 200 gigs." -Kerplunkers
"7:17 PM - •cC• Sergeant Steve: I've held a horse dick in my hand" - Stevey
"7:17 PM - •cC• Sergeant Steve: I've held a horse dick in my hand" - Stevey
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ive been gone for a while, does fierysnake not make useful posts?
so one day, i was on the server and i was trying to build a senty with tgame. i counted down "3,2,1,"then BAM. SERVER CRASH. then some pacman.
"where did we go so wrong?" Eythur as Heavy. March 30th 2010.
"where did we go so wrong?" Eythur as Heavy. March 30th 2010.
No, he likes to post things that either everyone knows is common knowledge or "lol"
Think of me what you will, I don't give a crap what you think about me. Nor will i change to please you.
I was scammed a while back, mainly due to my own stupidity though.
I was trying to sell my chieftans challenge, and somebody offers me €20 for it. After a bit of discussion, I accept. He says he has sent the money to my steam wallet, and that it might take over an hour to get there. He pretends to be a young child, saying that his mother wants to see the hat, since it was her credit card.
I refuse to give him the hat until I get the money, then he starts threatening to report me to steam for trying to sell a hat for money. I could do nothing but give him the hat, or risk hetting my steam account banned.
Also, steam admins dont exist. Even if they have [steam support] in their name and their writing is all green in the text chat, they dont exist. Refuse to give them 27 items for a vintage towering pillar, luckily I didnt fall for this one...
I was trying to sell my chieftans challenge, and somebody offers me €20 for it. After a bit of discussion, I accept. He says he has sent the money to my steam wallet, and that it might take over an hour to get there. He pretends to be a young child, saying that his mother wants to see the hat, since it was her credit card.
I refuse to give him the hat until I get the money, then he starts threatening to report me to steam for trying to sell a hat for money. I could do nothing but give him the hat, or risk hetting my steam account banned.
Also, steam admins dont exist. Even if they have [steam support] in their name and their writing is all green in the text chat, they dont exist. Refuse to give them 27 items for a vintage towering pillar, luckily I didnt fall for this one...
I have no real signature, so this will have to do for the time being.
Stay away from the Unusual Hat Club. Those guys all know each-other and will work together to get you to trade your Unusual for one that is of lesser 'value'. The people that run those servers are the kind of people I hate, using spreadsheets to measure hat 'value'.
The biggest thing I have seen them do is go on for long discussions about which Unusuals are 'not worth anything'. A lot of those people will tell you that your new hat unusual (any of the new hats) aren't worth anything because there is a high percentage of Unusuals to regular hats because of the Festive Crates. Those kind of people are fucking up the market.
People should trade based on what hats they want/like rather than what is more valuable. If people did that, everyone would have hats already and we wouldn't have people thinking they got 'scammed'.
FYI, don't call people out for doing 'bad trades'. If both people agree to the terms and one person isn't purposefully trying to screw someone, it isn't a bad trade. If you call someone out, it makes the person that got 'skewed' feel bad.
I do terrible trades for things I want all the time (ask the people on our server that got Unusuals for one or two vintages). Because of that, those hats are more valuable to me because they cost me more. Based on the principals of economics, the Unusual hats I traded should be worth less to the people I gave them to because they paid less for them, but this is not they case. TF2 Items isn't a real market that the shills want you to believe it is. The bottom can fall out at any moment and if you have patience, you can always find someone that will give you what you want for a good deal.
Also, finding a good trade on a trade server is becoming harder and harder. The market value for metal, tags and keys is pretty stable from day to day but if you run into someone that knows how much metal their hat is worth, leave the trade. They won't give you their hat for less or equal to what they think theirs is worth. I maintain my ignorance of hat value and still trade based on the things I like and people like me are more likely to give you things you want for a fair price.
The biggest thing I have seen them do is go on for long discussions about which Unusuals are 'not worth anything'. A lot of those people will tell you that your new hat unusual (any of the new hats) aren't worth anything because there is a high percentage of Unusuals to regular hats because of the Festive Crates. Those kind of people are fucking up the market.
People should trade based on what hats they want/like rather than what is more valuable. If people did that, everyone would have hats already and we wouldn't have people thinking they got 'scammed'.
FYI, don't call people out for doing 'bad trades'. If both people agree to the terms and one person isn't purposefully trying to screw someone, it isn't a bad trade. If you call someone out, it makes the person that got 'skewed' feel bad.
I do terrible trades for things I want all the time (ask the people on our server that got Unusuals for one or two vintages). Because of that, those hats are more valuable to me because they cost me more. Based on the principals of economics, the Unusual hats I traded should be worth less to the people I gave them to because they paid less for them, but this is not they case. TF2 Items isn't a real market that the shills want you to believe it is. The bottom can fall out at any moment and if you have patience, you can always find someone that will give you what you want for a good deal.
Also, finding a good trade on a trade server is becoming harder and harder. The market value for metal, tags and keys is pretty stable from day to day but if you run into someone that knows how much metal their hat is worth, leave the trade. They won't give you their hat for less or equal to what they think theirs is worth. I maintain my ignorance of hat value and still trade based on the things I like and people like me are more likely to give you things you want for a fair price.
My rule of thumb: Keep hats you like, trade ones you don't. If I get a hat I don't like, feel free to trade me 8 crates for it.
Life is whatever.
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